Hans's client: 65-year-old retiree, $1M in Traditional IRA, $400K in taxable brokerage, $35K Social Security, $20K pension. Married filing jointly. Current MAGI: roughly $90K. Federal bracket: 12%. State: 9.3% (CA).
RMDs start at age 73. Heir is a 45-year-old daughter, peak-earning physician at $400K/yr, in the 32-35% federal bracket.
The decision: optimize the IRA across the next 8 pre-RMD years.
Two strategies on the table:
We'll model both over 20 years — from age 65 to 85 — assuming consistent rate environment and heir distribution within SECURE 10-year window after the parent's death.
Plan: convert $80,000 of Traditional IRA to Roth every year from age 65 to 72 (8 years). Pay federal + state tax from taxable brokerage (so the full $80K transfers to Roth, not net-of-tax).
| Age | Conversion | MAGI after conversion | Federal tax (22% bracket) | CA tax (9.3%) | Annual tax cost |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 65 | $80,000 | $170,000 | $17,600 | $7,440 | $25,040 |
| 66 | $80,000 | $170,000 | $17,600 | $7,440 | $25,040 |
| 67 | $80,000 | $170,000 | $17,600 | $7,440 | $25,040 |
| 68 | $80,000 | $170,000 | $17,600 | $7,440 | $25,040 |
| 69 | $80,000 | $170,000 | $17,600 | $7,440 | $25,040 |
| 70 | $80,000 | $170,000 | $17,600 | $7,440 | $25,040 |
| 71 | $80,000 | $170,000 | $17,600 | $7,440 | $25,040 |
| 72 | $80,000 | $170,000 | $17,600 | $7,440 | $25,040 |
| Total | $640,000 | — | $140,800 | $59,520 | $200,320 |
After 8 years: Roth balance ~$760K (with growth at 5%), Traditional IRA residual ~$420K (from compounding on the unconverted portion). Total IRA value: ~$1.18M. Total taxes paid: $200,320 (paid from taxable brokerage; doesn't reduce IRA value).
IRMAA impact: $170K MAGI for 8 years crosses the first IRMAA tier ($206K MFJ — just under, no surcharge in our example). Note that for single filers, $170K would cross the second tier and add ~$840 of surcharge per year. For our MFJ case, no IRMAA impact.
Year 73-85 RMDs on residual Traditional IRA ($420K, growing to ~$700K by age 85):
Total lifetime tax (parent only, Strategy A): $200K conversion + $80K RMD = $280,000.
Heir inheritance (Strategy A): Roth $1.0M + Traditional residual $400K (after Mom uses some for living) = $1.4M, of which $1.0M is tax-free Roth.
Heir's 10-year tax on inherited Traditional ($400K): At 32% federal + ~10% state = roughly $168K. Heir keeps $232K from the Traditional + $1M Roth = $1.232M net to heir.
Plan: move full $1M from Traditional IRA into MYGAs (still inside the IRA wrapper) at 5.6% average rate. No conversions. Take only required RMDs starting at age 73.
From age 65-72: full tax-deferred compounding. $1M grows to ~$1.55M by age 72.
From age 73, RMDs begin. The IRS Uniform Lifetime Table factor is ~26.5 at age 73, dropping each year. Approximate RMD schedule:
| Age | IRA balance | Divisor | RMD | Federal+state tax (22%) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 73 | $1,630,000 | 26.5 | $61,500 | $13,530 |
| 75 | $1,690,000 | 24.6 | $68,700 | $15,114 |
| 77 | $1,720,000 | 22.9 | $75,100 | $16,522 |
| 79 | $1,710,000 | 21.1 | $81,000 | $17,820 |
| 81 | $1,680,000 | 19.4 | $86,600 | $19,052 |
| 83 | $1,610,000 | 17.7 | $91,000 | $20,020 |
| 85 | $1,520,000 | 16.0 | $95,000 | $20,900 |
RMDs of this size push MAGI from $55K base + RMD = $116K-$150K range. For an MFJ couple this stays under the first IRMAA tier ($206K). For a single filer (e.g., a widow), $130K+ MAGI clears the second IRMAA tier — adding ~$3,000/yr of IRMAA surcharge starting at age 73.
Total lifetime tax (parent only, Strategy B): ~$220K of RMD-related federal+state tax across age 73-85.
Heir inheritance (Strategy B): Full IRA at parent's death (assume age 85): ~$1.52M, all Traditional. Heir 10-year compressed distribution: at 32% federal + 10% state = $642K tax. Heir nets ~$878K.
| Metric | Strategy A (Roth ladder) | Strategy B (MYGA deferral) | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Parent lifetime tax | $280,000 | $220,000 | Strategy A pays $60K more upfront |
| Parent IRA value at death (age 85) | $1.4M ($1M Roth + $400K Trad) | $1.52M (all Trad) | Strategy B is $120K bigger at death |
| Heir's tax on inheritance | $168K (on $400K Trad only) | $642K (on full $1.52M Trad) | Strategy B costs heir $474K more |
| Total family lifetime tax | $448K | $862K | Strategy A saves $414K |
| Heir's net inheritance | $1.232M | $878K | Strategy A delivers $354K more to heir |
| Parent's living standard during 65-72 | Slightly tighter (paying conversion tax) | Same | ~$25K/yr extra cash needed in Strategy A |
The conversion wins by $414K of family tax savings — but only because the heir is in a high tax bracket. The conversion's advantage exists because Mom pays 22-24% now instead of letting her heir pay 32-37% later (compressed into 10 years).
Strategy B beats Strategy A in three specific scenarios:
If the heir is a non-working spouse, a college student, or another retiree in the 12% bracket, paying tax now at 22% to dodge a future 12% bill is a net loss. Defer everything; let the heir distribute in their own low brackets.
If life expectancy + spending pattern mean the IRA is mostly depleted by death, there's no inheritance to optimize. Defer, spend it down at the parent's rates.
If the parent's MAGI is $50K and conversions push them to $130K, they may cross IRMAA, lose ACA subsidies (if pre-65), or push capital gains from the 0% LTCG bracket to 15%. The conversion tax has hidden costs beyond the marginal income rate.
For most retirees in their 60s, the optimal strategy is partial conversion + MYGA wrapper for the residual:
The hybrid captures most of the conversion's tax benefit at the heir level without forcing the parent to pay tax at the top of their bracket every year.
The Roth conversion strategy assumes Roth distributions remain tax-free. Current federal law treats qualified Roth distributions as tax-free indefinitely. Future Congresses can change this; previous proposals (none enacted) have floated means-testing Roth distributions for high-income retirees.
The MYGA deferral strategy assumes RMD rules and tax brackets remain roughly stable. The SECURE Act already accelerated heir distributions to 10 years (from ~30+). Further compression is possible.
The honest position: both strategies carry tax-law risk. The conversion locks in tax certainty for the heir at the cost of higher parent-level taxes today. The MYGA defers the decision but exposes the family to whatever tax regime exists 10-20 years from now. Most planners (including us) recommend partial conversion as a hedge — you've paid some tax at current rates, so future law changes don't blow up the whole strategy.
I'm Hans Goldstein — independent licensed insurance producer (NPN 20602398), appointed with multiple A-rated carriers. I run side-by-side comparisons against CDs, MYGAs, Treasuries, and MMFs every week for retirees and pre-retirees. Tell me what you're considering and I'll send back a written comparison.
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