Short answer: a $1 million home with a small rental unit pencils best for this couple in both cases: 4.5% a year if they come back to the US after 10 years, 5.3% if they stay for life. Three deferred annuities that start after they leave catch up only if they return to the US and one of them reaches the mid-90s (5.0% at 95). If they stay for life the annuities lose, because Norway taxes the checks and the nursing home takes most of the rest. Payouts are modeled, not quotes.
This is the case I run most often in my head: a couple, he is 70 and she is 68, US citizens, with $3 million of savings. They are moving to Norway. I look at one $1 million slice. What should it be?
| Same $1 million in… | Back in the US: yearly return if the second parent dies at 90 / 95 | Stay in Norway for life: dies at 90 / 95 | Norway wealth tax, first 10 years | Left to heirs at 90 | Nursing-home clawback |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Home with a rental unit | 4.5% / 4.3% | 5.3% / 5.3% | $30,000 | about $1.9M to $2.0M | Small: only the rent counts, not the house |
| Home, no unit | 3.9% / 3.8% | 4.1% / 4.2% | $30,000 | about $1.9M to $2.0M | None: the house is not charged |
| 3 DIAs, life only | 2.9% / 5.0% | 0.9% / 3.7% | $0 | $0 | High: checks count as income, up to about $68,000 a year |
| Bank or bonds | 3.0% / 3.1% | 2.1% / 2.2% | $116,000 | $1.6M to $1.9M | Medium: the interest counts |
Returns are yearly, after Norwegian and US tax, counting what the heirs get; ages are hers, since the DIA checks run until the second death. The home figures use 3% price growth, $2,600 a month of rent saved, 1% a year for upkeep, 2.5% stamp duty and a 2% selling cost. The DIAs are three equal pieces starting in years 11, 14 and 17, joint life, 100% to the survivor, life only: modeled checks of about $52,000, $73,000 and $108,000 a year, about $233,000 once all three pay.
| Dies at | Back in the US: home with unit | Back in the US: 3 DIAs | Stay for life: home with unit | Stay for life: 3 DIAs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 85 | 4.8% | -2.6% | 5.1% | -7.4% |
| 90 | 4.5% | 2.9% | 5.3% | 0.9% |
| 92 | 4.4% | 4.0% | 5.3% | 2.3% |
| 95 | 4.3% | 5.0% | 5.3% | 3.7% |
| 100 | 4.2% | 6.0% | 5.4% | 5.1% |
The odds that at least one of them is alive are about 52% at her age 90 and about 25% at 95 (modeled). So the DIAs are a bet on the long tail.
I am a US-licensed insurance agent and do not give Norwegian tax or legal advice. This is a case study on modeled numbers, not a quote. Run it on your own ages in the calculator.
Married? Make the income outlive either of you. In Norway only the sponsoring spouse’s income counts, so the annuity is owned by and pays the sponsor. A joint and survivor payout then keeps paying the other spouse after the sponsor dies. If a single-life annuity is on one spouse and that spouse dies first, the payments stop, and the surviving spouse may have to show income of their own at the next renewal. A joint and survivor annuity, which keeps paying until the second death, or a separate annuity on each spouse closes that gap. Joint and survivor pays less per dollar than single life, so ask for both quotes and compare.
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